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Post by Admin on Jul 8, 2011 17:41:21 GMT 9.5
Arrow are releasing a dirt kart.
Here's the advertisement. How do you think it will compare?
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Post by tom on Jul 13, 2011 13:12:54 GMT 9.5
It will be a great chassis. DPE were very responsive to feedback during development of this chassis, and have made a kart that will win major meetings in the hands of the right people.
Like any chassis it has it's strengths and weaknesses, but the build quality is second to none, and there are a few features that aren't seen on other dirt karts that make it tuneable for changeable track conditions.
The quick-adjust on the rear ride height is great for adjusting between greasy and grippy tracks, and the design of the front including the stubs gives exceptional turn-in.
There will be great dealer support from Kustom Karts in SA, and with the resources of DPE and continued development, i think instead of just red vs black on the AIDKA tracks we will now have to add BLUE to the mix.
On a side note i think it says a lot about the strength of AIDKA as an organisation that the biggest kart manufacturer in the country has taken the time to develop a kart specifically for our application to try to get a piece of the pie. That can only be a good thing for AIDKA karters.
(ps, NO they haven't given me one to drive, when i come back racing i'll still drive my BRK)
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Post by FRANK SPENCER on Sept 15, 2011 23:02:36 GMT 9.5
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Post by Jt on Sept 16, 2011 8:09:50 GMT 9.5
There will be 2 karts driven at national title , I'm led to believe
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Post by camo21 on Sept 18, 2011 18:42:23 GMT 9.5
Any idea what a rolling chassis is worth?
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Post by tom on Sept 20, 2011 10:35:07 GMT 9.5
Contact Kustom Karts for a price on a rolling chassis.
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Post by bcmbear on Sept 20, 2011 21:42:58 GMT 9.5
Arrow $3900 Less rubber for rolling package
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Post by lyonsy on Sept 21, 2011 21:10:23 GMT 9.5
ouch on price
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Post by pete01 on Sept 22, 2011 16:51:13 GMT 9.5
yeah, I understand its going to be a good kart and all but you could buy 2 Ms Karts for that.
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Post by vangizzy47 on Sept 25, 2011 9:48:33 GMT 9.5
I raced the arrow prototype in SKAA speedway Australian titles at bega in may this year, placed 2nd (100 open) and that was my first drive in the kart, also did a lot of testing at other tracks, including strath. But mainly on speedway in and around Melbourne.
The kart felt really good, turn in was great, rode the bumps quiet well... I done some testing with the unilli brand of dirt tire, at which struggled to find side bite, but the Burris tires worked extremely well and had no problems with exiting corners..
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Post by camo21 on Oct 20, 2011 21:57:09 GMT 9.5
Did anyone race this chassis at the national title? How did they perform?
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Post by karter #94 on Oct 21, 2011 11:49:38 GMT 9.5
i belive i did see it there and it may have taken out a plate but unsure cant remember who the poilt was
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Post by dirtykart on Oct 25, 2011 17:14:35 GMT 9.5
so is this chassis worth the extra dollars and any better than Benson Brown Lewis Lightning Assassin Hustler Renegade Koyote Enforcer Victory Revenge and any others I cant think of?
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Post by tom on Oct 25, 2011 18:28:24 GMT 9.5
Nope, if DPE want to sell dirt karts they need to be price competitive with the likes of Lightning karts.
If you want a kart to win on dirt, best bet is to get someone like Dave Carruthers or Jarrod Moore to drive it for a while. Driver is way more important than chassis set-up on dirt. I don't think the guys at DPE fully comprehend what's involved in AIDKA racing. It's not like bitumen where you can just drive endless laps testing configurations 'till you get it right.
The kart is no doubt capable of being up there with the best in the right hands, and the build quality and components are top shelf, but i doubt there will be many willing to pay the premium for an unproven chassis.
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Post by karter #94 on Oct 26, 2011 9:10:09 GMT 9.5
totally agree with you there tom, good points you raised.
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Post by dirtykart on Oct 26, 2011 17:12:43 GMT 9.5
from what i have heard , Benson builds the majority of other kart brands plus his own and alot of people say his own are the best, but in Perth you dont see many at all, Do alot of people drive them over east? and win? the reason i ask is I am considering buying an Arrow as the Perth dealer is very close to where I live! I am also considering a Benson as I've been told they are very good (but I have never seen one), my third option is a WA designed kart (built by Benson) that I have been told is very similar to an older Lewis kart
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Post by tom on Oct 27, 2011 12:56:18 GMT 9.5
Plenty of people drive Benson's and win. I drove a Benson in the 125cc 40 lapper at Adelaide, and it didn't give me any nasty surprises. It was quite similar to my BRK in many respects.
You can get any kart to handle if you spend the time with it. Back when i ran 100cc Open in the 90's, i ran a slightly modified Monaco chassis. I got on the podium at a few states and nationals with it, and my mate that also ran a Monaco won just about everything until he retired from racing. (multiple State and Nationals).
Even after seeing good results, very few people bought the Monaco, it was (and still is) safer to stick to an existing proven chassis unless you are certain you know how to get a chassis to work.
The new Arrow X1-D has a couple of trick features that i am "borrowing" to put on my BRK if i ever get back to racing. The front stubs are more rigid than the BRK, and the rear bar fastener system that allows the bar to float is a neat idea.
The ability to raise and lower the rear axle with a cam system is also very cool.
I am sure you will see these features on a BRK / Lightning etc.. very soon.
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Post by dirtykart on Oct 27, 2011 18:06:02 GMT 9.5
are there different brands of chassis that are known to work better with the extra weight distribution of 125cc with battery and radiator etc?, I'm assuming some types of dirt chassis are stiffer and some are more flexible than others and have different handling characteristics
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Post by tom on Oct 29, 2011 20:18:11 GMT 9.5
125 light is the same weight as KT medium
125 heavy is the same weight as KT heavy
If the Chassis works well with the KT at that weight, the 125 won't be much different.
Setting up a 125cc, power wise you are looking at halfway between a KT and a 100cc Open.
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Post by gary on Dec 13, 2011 0:07:23 GMT 9.5
hi would like to hear any views or advice on which chassis / class a stock arrive n drive series could be created from..im in uk and there is not much dirt racing here except a few grass kart clubs, but already involved with a kart track business and thinking this could be another option .. the arrows kart dealership is in uk so thought that would be option , against shipping but any thoughts. thanks .
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