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Post by Admin on Mar 26, 2009 19:16:34 GMT 9.5
Aus Title Race Format
Added a new site poll.
What format should be used at the next Aus Title?
Just wanted to know the karters opinions on this important topic. |
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Post by tom on Mar 27, 2009 6:16:08 GMT 9.5
It depends on how many heats can be fitted in..
I think the best would be to have 6 races in total, comprising of 4 heats.
Pre-final with highest points from heats to the front.
Final with karts starting in order of pre-final finish..
Don't mind if all points from 6 races count, or just the order they finish in the final, what is important to me is that there are races with the fastest karts at the front of the grid!
If there is only time for 5 heats, then 4 heats and Final as most clubs currently run.
6 heats with no finals wastes the opportunity to showcase the best drivers racing against each other..
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Post by Karterdude! on Mar 27, 2009 16:09:13 GMT 9.5
Good to see in the Kangaroo Island prospectus that they brought back finals!
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Post by Kart79 on Apr 7, 2009 21:08:04 GMT 9.5
6 heats with no finals wastes the opportunity to showcase the best drivers racing against each other.. Totally agree with you tom they need to run finals at the Aus Title. |
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Post by Kart 30 on Apr 11, 2009 15:37:48 GMT 9.5
Funny how people want to run a winner takes all final. We will see if people really do when at the Next Adelaide meeting the Kt Light drivers get to chose whether they want a winner takes all final or a highet point final.
Only time will tell.
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Post by me on Apr 12, 2009 9:30:11 GMT 9.5
problem with winner takes all is that , the race becomes a crash and bash to get to the front
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Post by Kart 14 on Apr 12, 2009 10:54:23 GMT 9.5
problem with winner takes all is that , the race becomes a crash and bash to get to the front I agree thats what it will become people from the back will drive mad just to get near the front. |
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Post by paul on Apr 12, 2009 13:48:18 GMT 9.5
All the work done during the day getting points can be lost by someone taking you out in the final some people work together and all is lost. If everyone in the front is racing to finish and get points there is less chance of Zero to Hero racing.
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Post by me on Apr 12, 2009 23:25:44 GMT 9.5
couldnt agree more Paul, and to the others who cares what Adelaide think, AIDKA is more than just Adelaide
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Post by Karterdude! on Apr 13, 2009 16:51:17 GMT 9.5
couldnt agree more Paul, and to the others who cares what Adelaide think, AIDKA is more than just Adelaide I'm pretty sure they are not running it they are just having a vote on it and if their is enough support they will run a winner takes all final if the drivers vote for it. Kart 30 is trying to say is that the results so far on the poll suggest that people want a winner takes all final only time will tell (The next Adelaide Meeting) if people want a winner takes all final or it is just all talk. |
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Post by tom on Apr 13, 2009 18:00:29 GMT 9.5
Like i said in my post.. I don't care if it's a winner take all final or sum of points for the day..
The important thing is that there is as many races as possible with the fastest karts in the country racing head to head at the front of the field!
It will be interesting to see what happens when the drivers get their say at Adelaide next meeting.
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Post by Karterdude! on Apr 16, 2009 11:31:43 GMT 9.5
Looks like the poll now agrees with the final with the highest points wins.
Rumour has it that they are talking about running a winner takes all final.
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Post by Cougar on Jun 13, 2009 9:35:55 GMT 9.5
With any change in race format all aspects need to be considered before a decision is made. I am neither for or against but raise a few items to think about. In the Winner Takes All, how would you handle a driver on for example row (grid 5) driving the first couple of drivers off the end of the straight (first corner)? You can't deduct points as they don't count. The first couple of drivers are already out of the race because a restart was not required under the rules. The only option I can see is any infringement would have to result in total disqualification from the race result. Whatever decision is made is fine, but make sure that you think about how to handle these kinds of problems before they happen.
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Post by 20 laps on Jun 18, 2009 18:55:08 GMT 9.5
how about we have 20 lap final
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Post by Cougar on Jun 19, 2009 19:22:26 GMT 9.5
If the Final Finishing Position Counts option is used, I think the idea of more laps in the Final may reduce the first corner urgency. Would tracks stand up to 20 laps?
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Post by tom on Jun 20, 2009 0:13:35 GMT 9.5
I think the track would be pretty black after the first couple of classes! Would have to bring along a set of slicks just in case i reckon..
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Post by CRacing on Sept 11, 2009 18:09:50 GMT 9.5
With any change in race format all aspects need to be considered before a decision is made. I am neither for or against but raise a few items to think about. In the Winner Takes All, how would you handle a driver on for example row (grid 5) driving the first couple of drivers off the end of the straight (first corner)? You can't deduct points as they don't count. The first couple of drivers are already out of the race because a restart was not required under the rules. The only option I can see is any infringement would have to result in total disqualification from the race result. Whatever decision is made is fine, but make sure that you think about how to handle these kinds of problems before they happen. sound like we would be lucky to get any final with 350 kart unless they use the rain day to race or race to 12 at night. there will be alot of first corner crashes at Lucindale have you seen how sharp the first corner is but l guess it the same for everyone. how about we have 20 lap final 20 laps i think you would need a track grade ever race because Lucindale will go black after about 2 heat and that when it raining. lol |
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Post by karts4fun on Sept 12, 2009 19:12:19 GMT 9.5
The Aust Title potentially will have the most 1st corner stoppages of any previous title. To prevent the stoppages all the officials need to do is lean from the 2007 SA title at Pirie as they moved the start to their back straight away from their tight corner. At Lucindale they can also move the starting position when racing anti clockwise to their back straight, his will enable the field to sort them-selfs out on the 2 sweeping corners before the tight hairpin. If then karts go in too hot into the hairpin no matter how many karts are in any stoppage none will be get a restart.
I hear they may run with no restarts at the title, well this may also not be in the best interest of karting as the best driver maybe starting at the back in one of his heats with a pile up in front of him blocking the track with nowhere to go and no restart on a 1st corner incident, is this fair?
Lets see what the officials do to prevent potential 1st corner stoppages or will they give the huge fields every chance to sort them selfs out before they hit the tightest dirt kart corner around.
PS: Good luck to all attending and don't forget "Karts are 4 fun"
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