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Post by Karterdude! on Aug 13, 2008 16:09:51 GMT 9.5
Bitchemen karts run clutches as I saw at the recent City of Adelaide Nationals at Bolivar and I was just wondering if soon dirt karting will introduce clutches or are they going to stay the way they are.
I can't say what i think because I don't know what the difference is when you driving a kart with a clutch to one without.
What is your opinion on clutches?
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Post by outlaw19 on Aug 13, 2008 19:20:45 GMT 9.5
It is my understanding that the clutch rule in bitumen racings is compulsory as of 2009 season. I hope it doesn't become compulsory in dirt karting as this would rule out a lot of older open class engines because suitable clutches are not available I have checked into this with a larger NSW kart accessories supplier. I run an open class 100cc reed valve motor pre dating existing clutches meaning my motor would be obsolete. I would not up date to a kt100 it is my feeling that there should be a good spread across all classes and we should consider that we could loose some classes and with the possibility of some karts going as well. Expense of fitting a clutch and also having to have an external starter should be a consideration as well especially when trying to attack new members to the sport. If AIDKA did decide to go along the clutch idea my open class kart would be lost I maybe would consider redesigning it into an outlaw kart and running this together with my other outlaw kart with a view to swelling the outlaw ranks especially at Yorke Peninsula club. I don't know if AIDKA has any plans to look at clutches be used, if the do I would hope it is optional and keep the classes we have. I would think we would be better off building our kart numbers not loose them. I am sure a lot would disagree with me but at least all should be open to discussion.
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Post by kartbay7 on Aug 14, 2008 0:39:30 GMT 9.5
The only option for AIDKA is to allow axle clutches to come in. These are more expensive than the engine clutches but would let us still run 9 tooth standard engines. We have to heax this way due to OH&S problems with pushing etc. I think this would be a good option for all classes  |
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Post by tom on Aug 14, 2008 1:16:46 GMT 9.5
If you add up the costs of every direct drive AIDKA kart fitting a decent axle clutch and buying an external starter, i think you'll find it's cheaper to buy a fleet of quad bikes for each club for starting the karts!
The kart industry love putting new rules in place and using the insurer (or safety) as a convenient excuse... This happens frequently in AKA.
Fortunately AIDKA have by and large been ignored by this tactic, but as numbers grow i'm sure this sort of stuff will need to be dealt with.
Until the insurance company gives us notice that they will refuse to insure non-clutched karts, i feel very strongly that we shouldn't be heading in that direction. It's just another expense for the karter that is unwarranted.
PS... i have nothing against clutches themselves, i race 125.. Just hate the way the karting industry treat AKA karters, and think it would be a great shame to see this filter through to AIDKA..
Note, this isn't aimed at S.A. kart shops.
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Post by clutchy on Aug 14, 2008 20:16:43 GMT 9.5
clutches are now optional on all J classes, kt clutches are still being worked on. this came out at the last AIDKA meeting.
the rule had been oked last year but has taken some pushing to get full ok, funny that when the members had voted to included it
anyway it is in
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Post by kart 13 on Aug 14, 2008 22:14:11 GMT 9.5
The strike clutch is the only clutch approved for use by AIDKA.
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olman
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Post by olman on Aug 15, 2008 18:19:24 GMT 9.5
I personally think that they should be allowed for the KTs as they can already be used on the KT twins [optional] they bought the 125 class in & the fact that at a lot of meetings it is so hard to get pushers as there are a lot of people who just does not want to help push
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Post by tom on Aug 16, 2008 0:53:10 GMT 9.5
There is a difference between having the option to use a clutch, and being forced to use a clutch..
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Post by Karterdude! on Aug 16, 2008 14:39:14 GMT 9.5
Think AIDKA made a really good decision because they made it optional we can see how drivers go with clutches for ourselves and chose if we want to run the clutch in J Classes.
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Post by Karterdude! on Aug 16, 2008 14:45:32 GMT 9.5
There is a difference between having the option to use a clutch, and being forced to use a clutch.. There is a difference having if forced upon you could end up with a bad reaction. So this way if the make it optional say for 2 years people start seeing that when they crash they can restart and get clutches it won't be such a shock when they do make it compulsory if they ever do if some . Just My 2Cents. |
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Post by wrighty on Aug 17, 2008 8:38:21 GMT 9.5
There is a difference between having the option to use a clutch, and being forced to use a clutch.. There is a difference having if forced upon you could end up with a bad reaction. So this way if the make it optional say for 2 years people start seeing that when they crash they can restart and get clutches it won't be such a shock when they do make it compulsory if they ever do if some . Just My 2Cents. I agree, the idea of a clutch sound good but I would like to make my own choice. |
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Post by Kart111 on Dec 2, 2008 20:24:29 GMT 9.5
All classes should have the option to run clutches in 2009. It would be a good idea |
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Post by Karterdude! on Dec 2, 2008 20:28:27 GMT 9.5
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Post by mrgreenslade on Dec 2, 2008 20:56:52 GMT 9.5
Can someone tell me if you have a clutched kart like a 125, or kt with one fitted, do they ever stall if you spin and roll backwards?
Cheers
Scott
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Post by Kart15 on Dec 5, 2008 16:33:16 GMT 9.5
They don't stall they have a idol. But they can still fould up if the idol is too low.
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Post by SpeedRacer on Dec 5, 2008 16:37:27 GMT 9.5
Clutches are a good idea and it would be good it they had them in all classes.
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