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Post by outlaw19 on Sept 23, 2008 8:20:45 GMT 9.5
Does anyone know the acceptable height of the win-rows on the pole line of tracks. Some are becoming ridiculously high and dangerous. I was of the opinion they were to be no higher than 200mm or there abouts. A lot of clubs far exceed this and becoming dangerous to drivers by launching karts into the air . Track maintenance crews do a really good job but I think maybe should be aware of this.
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Post by wrighty on Sept 23, 2008 15:20:09 GMT 9.5
A.I.D.K.A. DIRT KART TRACK REQUIREMENTS
6. Track Conditions:
• Track edges, verges and run off area:- The track must be bordered along its length on both sides by compact verges that present an even surface, free of loose stones and debris and continue to the first line of protection which would normally be a catch trap.
• Kerbs/corners markers:- Track to be defined by a loose earth reel where possible on inner edge and if necessary on the outer edge. Reels shall not exceed two (200) hundred mm in height. If marked by other means the use of solid objects or markers that could be hit or flicked back onto following karts is strictly prohibited.
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Post by wrighty on Sept 23, 2008 15:22:25 GMT 9.5
2008 APPENDIX “D”: A.I.D.K.A. DIRT KART TRACK REQUIREMENTS
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Post by outlaw19 on Sept 30, 2008 8:14:36 GMT 9.5
That makes a lot of tracks under performing with the win-row heights maybe the track inspector should look at it and request a little extra work be done in preparation
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Post by wrighty on Sept 30, 2008 14:06:38 GMT 9.5
This may be true, but the track maintains teams have a lot of work to do and they do their best to get the track in the best condition for racing they can.
At my home track, Angas we have had heaps of rain and the track had to be graded very low, thus it meant that we had very large win-row, however we were able to race on the track.
So some time we have to take the good with the bad. I know that the track teams are only trying to bring us the best possible track with the conditions they are in.
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Post by Karterdude! on Sept 30, 2008 14:10:20 GMT 9.5
This may be true, but the track maintains teams have a lot of work to do and they do their best to get the track in the best condition for racing they can. At my home track, Angas we have had heaps of rain and the track had to be graded very low, thus it meant that we had very large win-row, however we were able to race on the track. So some time we have to take the good with the bad. I know that the track teams are only trying to bring us the best possible track with the conditions they are in. true, true but when I couldn't step over the win-rows at Angas that meeting I think that is just a bit too high. Some one needs to make a machine that takes the top of the win-rows so they can police this rule. Otherwise the rule is in the rule book just to take up space. |
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Post by wrighty on Sept 30, 2008 18:19:48 GMT 9.5
Yes, they were very large, still go mud on my boots from my spin.
My point was that the track crews try to do the best they can with what they have to work with.
I think we would all like a track that meet every rule in the book, it qould be great to race on.
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Post by wrighty on Sept 30, 2008 18:21:03 GMT 9.5
* Sorry - that should say WOULD - my wrong.
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Post by Karterdude! on Sept 30, 2008 20:57:43 GMT 9.5
The win-rows aren't the problem. They don't make people flip or crash its the people that try to drive over them.
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Post by outlaw19 on Sept 30, 2008 21:17:53 GMT 9.5
Totally disagree with the last comments Safety for all competitors is paramount even if there are people silly enough to driver over win-rows some responsibility has to be taken to stop these idiots from being hurt. Maybe the idea of speedway where dropping on to the white-line but in this instance win-row show have points removed.
I know track maintenance people have a lot to do but win-rows are part of track preparation the rule is that as stated by wrighty above it should be adhered to closely as possible or whats the point of the 84 page book we all are given with our license's
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Post by Admin on Sept 30, 2008 21:29:50 GMT 9.5
The rule is their for a reason. That is the point of the rule book.
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Post by wrighty on Oct 1, 2008 11:14:22 GMT 9.5
Yes the rules or the rules, and they are put in place to look after competitors safety and the safety of all person at the track.
So yes we need to keep on top of the rules, there are track inspector and it's their job to put forward any safety issues.
Track Inspectors:
Track Inspectors appointed by A.I.D.K.A. Administration have the right to approach Club Executives if they feel an item of safety needs attention. If the Track Inspector is not satisfied that the Club has endeavoured to correct the problem then he may get another Track Inspector to inspect the premises and if in the opinion of the second Track Inspector the track is unsafe, they will advise the A.I.D.K.A. Secretary to notify the Club in writing, with a time period to have the problem corrected. If the problem is still not corrected after the allowed time, then the Track Inspectors have the power to close the track to A.I.D.K.A. Insurance cover after notifying the A.I.D.K.A. Secretary of their intention to do so.
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Post by Karterdude! on Oct 1, 2008 11:46:06 GMT 9.5
I didn't mean it that way of cource the tracks need to be safe for everyone. But we need to get into karters heads that you don't driver over the win-rows to pass.
Btw who is the track inspector?
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Post by outlaw19 on Oct 1, 2008 17:09:47 GMT 9.5
AIDKA Track Inspector is Leo Caruso
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Post by tom on Oct 3, 2008 11:28:30 GMT 9.5
I'm a bit confused here.. If the reels were higher than 200mm, there must have been some pretty crazy drivers thinking they could driver over them!
The rule book is important. Some rules when broken have penalties that are applied, others when broken can result in warnings, or education.
The 200mm reel is a good idea, if a track crew consistently disregards this rule then i think it's a problem.. If there are extenuating circumstances then i don't see a problem with doing what is required to make the racing surface as good as possible.
We race on dirt tracks, they are always going to be uneven and inconsistent.. That's half the fun!
I think it is different if a club has a policy of DELIBERATELY making the reels significantly higher than the rulebook suggests..
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