Video's and official decisions

[tom]

What is your opinion on using a video of an incident when called to the steward to back-up your version of what happened?

I have been a chief steward before, and know first hand that what you see from the side of the track is different to what it looks like from the drivers seat.

If you are a steward, would you be interested in viewing the incident you were penalising a driver on ? If you are a driver do you think you should be allowed to use video image if available to influence the steward ?

I know if i was a steward i'd love to see any video's of an incident before my decision was final.. Much better than making a decision, then seeing the incident in question on video later and realising that from a different angle the incident looked totally different, or worse i'd made a factual error (wrong kart, etc..)

With more people running camera's this may become an issue especially at bigger meetings.

[outlaw19]

Video evidence could have a place in blue ribbon events. If video evidence was used in a normal meeting no I wouldn't agree. The time to view and hear disputed calls is just not available unless a driving standards steward not the chief steward is available. So instances could drag out. Also no standard has been put on the camera's and also the mounting. This could become a scruntineering issue. personnaly if I scrutineered a kart with a camera attached it wouldn't get passed unless it had saftey wires attached or clamped. If it was helmet mounted then it wouldn't go through. Currently there is nothing defining cameras in the rule book maybe there should be.

[tom]

I have a camera that is integrated into the frame of my goggles, what would your scrutineering view of that one be ?

I also have a camera i could put almost anywhere and unless you knew exactly what you were looking for you'd never see it...

So far i've only used a camera in my goggles, and one attached to the rear post of my Leatt Brace.

As for a safety issue, i can guarantee you the chunks of mud coming off my rear tyres are more hazardous than if by freak occurence one of my camera's fell off !!

I know the AKA have recently written a specific rule covering the mounting of camera's etc.. Can't really see how you'd disallow camera's on helmets without also banning wings etc. (the rear wing on my helmet weighs about 4 times what my helmet camera weighs!)

I can buy a factory M2R helmet with forward and rear facing cameras as an integral part of the helmet, would you disallow that one also ?

Bit of a blanket statement saying helmet camera's wouldn't pass your scrutineering!

I agree on the time issue if video evidence is allowed. If the driver is given a chance to submit evidence and it's not ready, then too bad..

[outlaw19]

Not a blanket statement at all if it is attached by bands Not Acceptable If is attached by any Screw Bolt type device Not Acceptable Itegrity of Helmet could be question. I don't have a problem if the helmet camera is intergrate by the manufacturer Not A Problem. If your cameara is intergrated by the manufactuere Not a problem. The wings on your helmet are a manufacturer attached accessorie if it isn't and the integrity of your helmet could be question. Yes if it is amanufacturer accessory No if it is an ad on. It is not in the rules. If an after market helmet mounted camera is present to me at scrutineering NO it won't be passed

[John]

Any factual evidence would of course be beneficial.

Maybe to save volunteer officials having to spend their weekends viewing all the video evidence each class could manage the penalties for their own race incidents.

With the race captured on video from start to end we probably can give the tower officials some time off and let the drivers work out their own finishing positions while they are reviewing the race videos.

This can only lead to the ideal race event from some drivers perspectives...no volunteer officials to ruin their day...*smile*