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Post by outlaw19 on May 17, 2010 8:47:28 GMT 9.5
Whats the point your trying to make yorkie157 you haven't made a comment
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Post by yorkie157 on May 17, 2010 12:14:33 GMT 9.5
Yeah, sorry for that, I'm not too good with these mssageboards. What I would like to say is that .....very recently I was in the middle of the track on the infield watching my son in ROOKIES when another driver span and stalled infront of me. I did what I have seen MANY others do and entered the circuit to push start the young fella. at the conclusion of the race I was called to the control tower where I was informed that my actions were against all rules and that NOONE was allowed to enter the circuit to push/restart a ROOKIE who has stalled after spinning. They could be helped to remove there Kart from the circuit BUT CANNOT be restarted!!!!! I told the officail that we are recently new to Karting and that I'd seen Rookies restarted on ALL my previous attendances at meetings? To which he replied it never happens or is allowed at this particular track. So to all parents / helpers with kids in rookies please be warned that reastarting a stalled ROOKIE or any other non clutch kart is NOT ALLOWED. The rule book is quite clear and the official is correct. BUT. My question is...............Why are there different rules at different clubs? ? Please don't think I'm trying to cause problems but would like a definate answer that covers ALL dirt kart meetings, ARE WE ALLOWED TO RESTART ROOKIES OR NOT? The rule book says NO, but some clubs allow it. Should I be asking the question at EVERY drivers briefing at EVERY meeting. Thanks from a father (and racer) of a ROOKIE
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Post by outlaw19 on May 17, 2010 14:10:21 GMT 9.5
Hi yorkie157 can you email me with the information and anything relevent I will be happy to take this up at the next AIDKA meeting 28 th May and seek clarification from the National Steward adviser. I know at my home track the restarting of rookies is allowed mainly because rookies are not classed as racing but learning and thats the aim of rookies allowing children to compete and not be disheartened if not finishing. I know which I would prefer its better to complete than to walk off the track and not having finished. These children in most cases are learning to drive, when they step up after leaving rookies then the expection isn't there if they spin out they spin out. email me at brenton_talbot@yahoo.com
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Post by karter #94 on May 17, 2010 14:13:43 GMT 9.5
i think you might have to ask the question at every track mate but i personally belive rookies should be restarted as the are only learning and the more time they have on the track the better thay will be. If they spin out on the first corner everytime sooner or later there just going to walk away from the sport and thats not good for any club. I stress this is only MY opion not a clubs opion at all.
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Post by yorkie157 on May 17, 2010 15:31:23 GMT 9.5
Guys I appreciate your comments.
The steward told me the reason people are not allowed on the circuit is that in the event of a pusher being hit by a kart, the insurance would be VOID and the club would be in deep trouble.
My arguement is.............How can different clubs have different rulings when there is only ONE rule book? Can I restart a ROOKIE or not???
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Post by outlaw19 on May 17, 2010 17:09:58 GMT 9.5
It is possible to have a supplementary Regulation that allows something to happen at one club and not another but needs to have been approved at AIDKA Delegate meeting. Rookies rule can be interpreted a little greyly. Depending on the child's age if they are below 8 above 7 then they are not allowed to compete in a competitive event: Rule 5.5.2 page 7 2010 rule book. I then interpret they are not racing and if they meet the age then in my opinion should be allowed to be restarted."My Opinion Only" This is why I need some info because I am having it include on the agenda for interpretation. I would wait until after the AIDKA meeting. Check at the drivers meeting , when racing to clarify what the club rules are it maybe cover under a "sub reg" To have a definitive yes or no, it needs clarification with the National Steward Advisor. The restarting during a race is as stated it can't be done. ROOKIES do not RACE and that is the grey area regarding your discussion in this forum.
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Post by yorkie157 on May 17, 2010 19:57:22 GMT 9.5
OUTLAW 19 i've sent you a private message.
If the problem is an insurance issue, do individual clubs have different, individual policies covering different risks??
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Post by gesto on May 17, 2010 20:17:19 GMT 9.5
Adelaide have always let rookies get restarted. Angas have been OK , but not always. All the country tracks as far as I know are OK to restart. If unsure - Ask at the drivers briefing & you will be sure . I think rookies should be allowed to restart , but parents must wait till the track is clear & should have pre spoken to their rookie about staying on the inside or outside when getting pushed off so as to not weave across the track . This allows others to easily pass if needed. Parents should have a resposability to teach the young ones about safe driving & starting, not about winning. The rules say no restarting ,once racing, but Rookies are never racing , just getting educated. So as is Rookies can restart.
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Post by outlaw19 on May 17, 2010 23:33:17 GMT 9.5
yorkie157 I have pm'd you with contact info
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